Autumn Chop
November 24, 2010 by Patricia Sund
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How do the greens freeze? Does the mixture turn watery? When I try to freeze collard greens they get very watery when defrosted.
Donna
Not at all. I try to keep the mixture as dry as possible and add all of those dry ingredients on the bottom to help absorb any extra moisture. It always seems to work out pretty well. You put the oatmeal and all of the other stuff in without cooking it. Just cook the grains and drain them well. I’ve never really had a problem with it when I was conscious of keeping it really clean and drained.
Hi Patricia,
Thanks for your brilliant videos, they’ve given me lots of new ideas! I just wanted to ask, do you feed the sweet potato raw or did you cook it? I’ve always cooked it but it spoils easily so if it’s ok to feed raw that would make life a lot easier!
Many thanks,
Phoebe
Relax and put up your feet, Pheobe. It goes in raw!
Hi Patricia. Love the autumn chop. I’m wondering, how much is in each baggie – a tablespoon for each parrot?
It depends on the species. Give them about 2 tablespoons at first and see how much they actually eat. My Greys are bigger eaters every other day. So sometimes they’ll eat as much as a tablespoon and a half. Other days, not as much. But I offer other stuff as well along with the Chop: Bean Mix, sometimes sprouts, or some fresh baked birdie bites. So, although Chop and bean mix is the cornerstone of their diet, they always have access to a formulated pelleted diet in their cages. And they get other table food occasionally.
I love how you are all sitting together there, birdies included, bagging chop. So funny. I bet P&P would love to take a dive into that “chop” bath too!
OMG! Please ignore my previous questions. I discovered this video and had a blast watching it. This is amazing. You are effectively eliminating many hormonal issues by feeding only seasonal stuff Nov – Apr. If I keep away from sugary fruits and stick to those autumn harvest crops, keep a cover on the cage for at least 12 hrs of dark, I can trick a Roxy into thinking it’s autumn most of the year (even in south Florida) so we have much less naughty sexual behavior, biting of the hand that chops, and less amorous advances towards my husband. I learned this from my wonderful avian vet, Dr. Gwen Flinchum at All Bird Clinic in Lake Worth. She and her staff are amazing! All have provided forever homes for rescued parrots, all are so good with my birdies, and I adore them. Thanks for the video! I’m going to goodwill to find a chopper, and then to the market for some goodies to chop. My birdies will be wanting your autograph soon!!!
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Do you heat it at all as you are serving the thawed chop? I very slightly “steamed” (nuked with a cover) for just a couple minutes my greens (before freezing)…good or bad idea? Also, had an idea for a “chop” party! Each attendee brings a few veggies/ingredients…and a people appetizer…all work chopping and cooking, etc…all get to take home some chop! Wine (for people) optional! Thanks for some great ideas! I work full time…so having this ready to go each evening and changing it up some is WONDERFUL! Thanks again for the idea!
Hi Shelley!
In the morning I take the baggie of thawed Chop out of the fridge and put it on the coffee maker water tank lid to warm a bit as the coffee is brewing. While the coffee is brewing and Chop is warming, I take a shower. When I’m ready to serve my Greys their breakfast, it’s ‘warmish.” They seem to prefer it that way.
I simply use the raw greens in making the chop. I think it remains crisper that way in the freezing process. However it is your Chop. If you want to steam it first, please do so.
And I think you have a wonderful idea for the Chop Party. Please take photos and send so I can do a post on your party!
Hi Patricia
Thanks for the prompt reply…are all squashes to be cooked as you showed the pumpkin? And, one more thing…all root veggies can be served raw?
Shelley, the only time I cook root vegetables is when it would take a hacksaw to cut them up. I only cooked it because it would have been just hideous to try and cut it up to use it raw in the chop. Regarding raw root vegetables: carrots are root vegetables and we eat them raw. So are radishes,and jicama. So I pretty much leave all of the vegetables in their natural state unless it’s impractical or a pain in the keester to leave it that way. The items I cook are beans, lentils, pasta, grains and various rices. I was once questioned about using sweet potato raw. Someone had read “somewhere” that you shouldn’t. I simply asked to see the data on it and got no response so I don’t think it’s a problem because I’ve been using it raw for years. And I know a bird shop owner that’s been feeding it raw for decades with no issue. So not unlike years ago when there was this fairy tale going around that parsley was bad for birds, I think the raw sweet potato myth has hit a dead end.
Is there any information on whether garlic (or onion family plants) cause hemolytic anemia in birds? I know it’s the case with cats, which of course, are not birds.
Patricia just thought you should know. I always steam mine for about 7 minutes just have to get the temp up to 195. to Kill this so they are still firm love the site. Keep up all the great work. You sure have made my life easier with the chop.
Sweet potato shows trypsin inhibitor activity. That means it contains an enzyme inhibitor that blocks the action of trypsin, an enzyme that digests proteins. The trypsin inhibitor prevents the digestion of protein. Sweet potatoes with higher protein levels have more of the trypsin inhibitor. This makes raw sweet potato difficult to digest. The trypsin inhibitor is deactivated by cooking.
One way the raw food diet helps people is by supplying food enzymes. Food enzymes do part of the work of digesting the raw food. Enzyme inhibitors increase the amount of work that your body needs to do to digest foods. Enzyme inhibitors force your body to produce more digestive enzymes. This uses up resources that could be used to produce detoxifying enzymes. When animals are regularly fed enzyme inhibitors in research, they become sick. Sweet potato should not be eaten raw.
Toxic substances and antinutritional factors: Sweet Potato FAO.org
You’re probably right wyoben. And on the same strain I have this information:
Alfalfa Seeds & Sprouts Contain canavanine, an amino acid that can worsen lupus. Buckwheat greens contain fagopyrin, which can create photosensitivity (meaning increased sensitivity to sunburn and skin cancer). Large enough amounts could, in theory, create problems with immune function.
So there goes sprouts. Can’t have that.
There is also arsenic activity in kelp. So that’s out.
Celery, celery root, parsley, & parsnips contain toxins called psoralens, aka furocoumarin. Psoralens can cause phytophotodermatitis. Can’t serve that either.
So where do we stop? How controlled do we have to get? Where do we draw the line?
I believe in the “shotgun approach.” My birds aren’t living on sweet potatoes. There are other ingredients that offer other nutritional values that more than adjust for any shortfall you site.
If you want to steam your sweet potato, I’m all for it. It’s your Chop, your Flock and if that is important to you, I fully support you. I completely hear your concerns and with your Flock, you do what you feel is best. You did some research and I applaud you. Thank you for your input!